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		<title>By: Laurian Vega</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurian Vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sarah! What a great effort and a great post. I&#039;ve created a facebook group for childcare at conferences (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=304428716051&amp;ref=ts). What to join? We could use your voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sarah! What a great effort and a great post. I&#8217;ve created a facebook group for childcare at conferences (<a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=304428716051&#038;ref=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=304428716051&#038;ref=ts</a>). What to join? We could use your voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorna</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sarah, I know your name from the devChix group online. Just ran across this blog post and had to comment. I have been home for five years raising my  kids, running my business, and trying to stay current in the business world; and I cannot tell you how many conferences and growth/networking opportunities I&#039;ve missed because there&#039;s either no child care, or the price is way above my pay grade. These events are unintentionally (in most cases?) set up so that no primary parents can do these events unless they live next door to their unemployed mother.

Right now I&#039;m on my way to a computer science degree (career change) and want to specialize in Ruby. So the idea that there may be child care available at Ruby conferences/workshops is very exciting to hear. (And for the record, my kids would &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt;to hang out with an experienced dad.)

Thanks for taking the initiative here and making the effort!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sarah, I know your name from the devChix group online. Just ran across this blog post and had to comment. I have been home for five years raising my  kids, running my business, and trying to stay current in the business world; and I cannot tell you how many conferences and growth/networking opportunities I&#8217;ve missed because there&#8217;s either no child care, or the price is way above my pay grade. These events are unintentionally (in most cases?) set up so that no primary parents can do these events unless they live next door to their unemployed mother.</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m on my way to a computer science degree (career change) and want to specialize in Ruby. So the idea that there may be child care available at Ruby conferences/workshops is very exciting to hear. (And for the record, my kids would <i>love</i>to hang out with an experienced dad.)</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the initiative here and making the effort!</p>
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		<title>By: shanna</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>shanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful idea. Good for you for doing this.

I was a single parent from the time my son was 3 until he was 10. Tech conferences were rough. Once I was sponsored by my work to attend a SANS conference. There were probably about 1000 attendees, but not a child in sight. I had to arrange a patchwork of help, including flying my mom out to stay with us for some of the time, and finding an (expensive) nanny for two days. This prevented me from going to any of the BOF evening meetings. As a single mom at SANS I was definitely not in the main demographic, but I have always been somewhat of an iconoclast, so it didn&#039;t bother me that much. Still it would have been nice to meet at least one other parent who had their kids with them.

I can&#039;t help but think that if childcare was a norm at conferences it would allow more, different types of people to come. Certainly more single parents! Having childcare available allows parents to network around their children.. Create more connections - and strengthen a &quot;parent community&quot; for future conferences. I also think it is a good learning experience for kids to see what their parents do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful idea. Good for you for doing this.</p>
<p>I was a single parent from the time my son was 3 until he was 10. Tech conferences were rough. Once I was sponsored by my work to attend a SANS conference. There were probably about 1000 attendees, but not a child in sight. I had to arrange a patchwork of help, including flying my mom out to stay with us for some of the time, and finding an (expensive) nanny for two days. This prevented me from going to any of the BOF evening meetings. As a single mom at SANS I was definitely not in the main demographic, but I have always been somewhat of an iconoclast, so it didn&#8217;t bother me that much. Still it would have been nice to meet at least one other parent who had their kids with them.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but think that if childcare was a norm at conferences it would allow more, different types of people to come. Certainly more single parents! Having childcare available allows parents to network around their children.. Create more connections &#8211; and strengthen a &#8220;parent community&#8221; for future conferences. I also think it is a good learning experience for kids to see what their parents do.</p>
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		<title>By: children assessment</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>children assessment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thnx for sharing this informative post!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thnx for sharing this informative post!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Blair</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only speak of my experience in having availed myself of Peter&#039;s childcare services on the day. Without a support network in the U.S. (we&#039;re from Scotland) we just wouldn&#039;t have been able to attend. Our kids are just too young for us to leave with a sitter so it was good to have them being taken care of by another parent with baby experience but still be close by in case they needed us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only speak of my experience in having availed myself of Peter&#8217;s childcare services on the day. Without a support network in the U.S. (we&#8217;re from Scotland) we just wouldn&#8217;t have been able to attend. Our kids are just too young for us to leave with a sitter so it was good to have them being taken care of by another parent with baby experience but still be close by in case they needed us.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahmei</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarahmei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More durable? I guess then you haven&#039;t seen a 4-year-old carom off the banister, roll down the stairs, and then pick herself up as if nothing had happened? Or maybe that&#039;s just mine...  :)

I see what you&#039;re saying, though. After some thought I have concluded that my initial negative reaction was due to the fact that many organizations use the liability issue as a reason not to offer childcare at all. In reality, a waiver and incorporation take care of any issues, as you&#039;ve pointed out. 

The real reason it generally isn&#039;t offered (IMO) is because it&#039;s nontrivial to set up and administer, and organizers think no one will use it. My point is that people may not use it, but its availability opens the event to many parents who wouldn&#039;t sign up otherwise. 

The bottom line is that if a technical community wants more women, they need to put their money where their mouth is and do what it takes to get them here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More durable? I guess then you haven&#8217;t seen a 4-year-old carom off the banister, roll down the stairs, and then pick herself up as if nothing had happened? Or maybe that&#8217;s just mine&#8230;  <img src='http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying, though. After some thought I have concluded that my initial negative reaction was due to the fact that many organizations use the liability issue as a reason not to offer childcare at all. In reality, a waiver and incorporation take care of any issues, as you&#8217;ve pointed out. </p>
<p>The real reason it generally isn&#8217;t offered (IMO) is because it&#8217;s nontrivial to set up and administer, and organizers think no one will use it. My point is that people may not use it, but its availability opens the event to many parents who wouldn&#8217;t sign up otherwise. </p>
<p>The bottom line is that if a technical community wants more women, they need to put their money where their mouth is and do what it takes to get them here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Casimir</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Casimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I can understand what you&#039;re saying, but adults are much more durable beings.  If I were you, I would at least take steps to notify people that they should think of it like a friend babysitting, not a professional service, and maybe even draft up some simple agreement that they&#039;d sign.  Does it sound kind of stupid? Yes.  But could someone come after your savings, car, home if they really wanted to?  Probably.  At least you can have some backup on your side so they can&#039;t say &quot;I _ASSUMED_ that the care was given by XYZ certified &amp; BLAH-BLAH licensed professionals.&quot;

Does it show that my mother&#039;s a lawyer? :)

And by the way, incorporating one state over in NV is pretty cheap and easy -- I bet there are reasonable people in SF who could help you with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I can understand what you&#8217;re saying, but adults are much more durable beings.  If I were you, I would at least take steps to notify people that they should think of it like a friend babysitting, not a professional service, and maybe even draft up some simple agreement that they&#8217;d sign.  Does it sound kind of stupid? Yes.  But could someone come after your savings, car, home if they really wanted to?  Probably.  At least you can have some backup on your side so they can&#8217;t say &#8220;I _ASSUMED_ that the care was given by XYZ certified &amp; BLAH-BLAH licensed professionals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does it show that my mother&#8217;s a lawyer? <img src='http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And by the way, incorporating one state over in NV is pretty cheap and easy &#8212; I bet there are reasonable people in SF who could help you with it.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahmei</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahmei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

You raise a good point. Anyone could sue us for anything at any time - when they break their ankle tripping over an ethernet cable, or when they burn their tongue on coffee that is too hot, or when they have an allergic reaction to something in the food, or when they slip in the bathroom, or when their kid disregards Nintendo&#039;s warning and swings the Wiimote into another kid. :)
 
I want to change the makeup of our Ruby community, so I guess that&#039;s a risk I have to take. Honestly, I would incorporate if I had the money for legal fees, because this does seem like something that could get bigger. But this economy hasn&#039;t been kind to my family so it&#039;ll have to stay a grassroots effort for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>You raise a good point. Anyone could sue us for anything at any time &#8211; when they break their ankle tripping over an ethernet cable, or when they burn their tongue on coffee that is too hot, or when they have an allergic reaction to something in the food, or when they slip in the bathroom, or when their kid disregards Nintendo&#8217;s warning and swings the Wiimote into another kid. <img src='http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I want to change the makeup of our Ruby community, so I guess that&#8217;s a risk I have to take. Honestly, I would incorporate if I had the money for legal fees, because this does seem like something that could get bigger. But this economy hasn&#8217;t been kind to my family so it&#8217;ll have to stay a grassroots effort for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Casimir</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2009/06/30/why-childcare-matters-at-tech-events/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Casimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah,

This totally makes sense, but the pragmatist in me says &quot;What about the liabilities?!?&quot;  I&#039;m sure your husband is a reasonably experienced caretaker, but it would seem to me that if &quot;something&quot; were to happen, even like a simple injury, you&#039;re really in jeopardy.  I&#039;m sure 99% of your participants wouldn&#039;t THINK about taking you to court when you were offering them a free, opt-in service.  But for that 1%, especially if you aren&#039;t running the workshop through a corporation, it would seem you&#039;re putting your personal financial life on the line.

Am I way off base?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah,</p>
<p>This totally makes sense, but the pragmatist in me says &#8220;What about the liabilities?!?&#8221;  I&#8217;m sure your husband is a reasonably experienced caretaker, but it would seem to me that if &#8220;something&#8221; were to happen, even like a simple injury, you&#8217;re really in jeopardy.  I&#8217;m sure 99% of your participants wouldn&#8217;t THINK about taking you to court when you were offering them a free, opt-in service.  But for that 1%, especially if you aren&#8217;t running the workshop through a corporation, it would seem you&#8217;re putting your personal financial life on the line.</p>
<p>Am I way off base?</p>
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